Today's fishbowl about Design, unfortunately for the inner circle, was partially fruitless. Many topics were discussed in detail, for example new structures for school schedules, but much of the conversation was pretty off topic. I do believe this was due to the limit of the ways people can interpret design as a major factor for the future. Much of the chapter seemed either redundant or affirmative of what I already knew of design from subconscious knowledge and much of Pink's other writing earlier in the book or from excerpts in Drive. I interpret the importance of design as something incorporated in all types of tasks, and something that is and should be noted throughout the day in one's surroundings. This came up in an interesting conversation with Clarissa from the outside circle in the live blog. She asked whether the activities Dan Pink prompts the readers to do to practice design mattered and would be effective. I do believe they enhance a bit of life because my sister is involved in fashion. This has led me to notice design of all sorts in my surroundings just being around her excitement about the topic. Overall, I think the fishbowl could have been better at staying on topic for the inner circle. That may have been true because of the limits on discussion of design. We went over the economic factors and how it helps learning and healing environments, after that there seems to not be much left to talk about. However, just glancing at the outer circle live blog, I believe they had better success. This may have been due to the great presence of Mr. Long.
Today’s fishbowl honestly was not one of our best; it took a long time to get settled in and for topics to start flowing. It almost seemed choppy, to say the least; there were quite a few of those awkward silences where people frantically had to think up new discussion ideas. Once everyone had settled in and reached a topic where people felt they could think more deeply, the conversation was much more smooth and in depth. While I would sit and listen to the others in the inner circle, it seem like the certain topics were repeatedly drilled and the same people were talking about them. Eventually (thankfully), Mrs. Smith interjected the discussion and steered us into more cognitive thinking and deeper ways design can be applied to life. Most of the discussion consisted of what motivates students in school, and for the majority of people grades were the motivator. I find this extremely sad. Students these days do not actually want to learn but do it because they have to; they have lost their drive. At one point Smith talked about the man who walked the tightrope between the world trade centers, and I thought this was key to the topic of design and motivation. He did not just wake up one morning and say, “Hey I think I’m going to walk in between two buildings on a tiny wire today!” It took his time and effort to create a system that would allow him to successfully cross from one side to another. It helped me to realize that design is not just used for cars or toothbrushes or toilet scrubbers, but it can be used to express any sort of passion. This is what makes Pink’s point so clear; we need design not only to help us in the future, but to help motivate us today. In total, I think the fishbowl was successful, but it was not our best.
The live blog on the outer circle during today’s fishbowl had some great discussions going, however I don’t think the inner circle’s discussion was nearly as in-depth or on topic. During the live blog, many great points were brought up. Some topics were even related back to last semester about individualism. One topic that was largely related to design was design of schools. Even though most people answered the design of the school adds to learning, I feel like it distracts. The walls are boring and white; the whole school does not seem very open. I love big windows and light, I feel like I would learn better in this kind of environment. Affect of light was also brought up in the blog. Like Daniel Pink talked about in his book, light helped medical patients feel better, and I think it can help students learn. Another great topic brought up by the outer circle was design as an aesthetic vs. design as a mindset. Mr. Christian Long brought this up, as well as many other great points, during the live blog. He pointed out we use design to solve problems and we tend to think of design as a decorative aspect. He also shared a great video (http://vimeo.com/11438598) of a school that was completely design oriented. I love it because the school allowed so much room for creative freedom and design. Scott Witthoft, an environment collaborative for the school, said design was hard to describe but he would say it was, “A willingness to separate yourself from ego. It often suggests you have to try things where uncertainty is the only certainty.” This is a great quote that, I think, related to today’s discussion greatly. The inner circle’s discussion, I feel like, was redundant. It talked greatly about motivation, but not how design can help or distract from it. They did have a good conversation though about the tight rope walker who had to work his way toward walking on a wire between the World Trade Center. Overall, today’s fishbowl could have been improved, but some great points were brought up. Hopefully we learn from our mistakes and have an amazing discussion next time.
During the Design fishbowl discussion, people brought up a multitude of topics. I was part of the outside circle, so heard bits and pieces of the inner circle's conversation. It seemed as though people were making good points and keeping the conversation going, but struggling with staying on topic. This could be because design is such a broad notion and can be related to many different topics. However, I think that people were forgetting the main reason that design related to the message Pink is trying to send, the ways people are motivated, and the different sides of the brain. I think that Pink is trying to inform us that design is going to be playing an important role in the world of careers and therefore there will be an even greater demand for right-brained thinking. The topics and questions we brought up seemed to be scattered and across the board. Nonetheless, we managed to develop some interesting conversations especially surrounding school and the grading system. Would students perform better in school if grades were no longer a measurement of their progress? I tend to think that without an incentive to perform well, students would become lazy. I know many would disagree, but I don't understand how anything would ever get accomplished. Mrs. Smith also jumped in to pull the conversation back on track. She brought up some great points to extend our thinking. The example of Philippe Petit in the documentary "Man on Wire" was the perfect of example of someone who passionately pursues a goal with intense self-drive. His goal is to tightrope between the Twin Towers and therefore successfully designs an intricate plan. In the outer circle, conversation flourished with topics to discuss and questions to answer. Thanks to Mr. Long who enhanced the blogging conversation with new ideas and links to new information. Overall the fishbowl was a successful way to gather some ideas and make connections to the reading, but in the future we should dig deeper into the main topic of discussion.
Today's fishbowl was not the greatest. Being in the outer circle mainly focussed on the live blogging I noticed a couple of things. I think that both the inner and outer circles did a good job of discussing topics, however those topics weren't always completely related to what the book was saying. Everyone seems to understand the superficial points of the book or the things laying on the surface, but no one really dug deeper into what Daniel Pink is really saying about how we should apply the aspects if Design. Also I had a quite compelling conversation with Mr. Cristian Long, and I realized that out side sources are key to the outer circle, Christian linked me to some article that defiantly helped me understand the meaning of 'design thinking'. My tip to the participants of the outer circle is find outside sources to help to prove your point or explain what you are trying to say. Finally I think that this fishbowl and the ones to come will be our hardest yet. Not only are the expectations a lot higher, but this book is a non-fiction piece. Our whole class is so used to discussing fiction books that we are kind of staying in the same systems that we were before. We need to have some different thinking in order to properly understand A Whole New Mind to its fullest, like creating real world uses that we didn't have to do with the other books. Overall I think that we could have done better but we are defiantly learning a continuously getting better at fishbowls.
I agree with Anna. Don't get me wrong, A Whole New Mind is a fascinating book. I love the way Pink writes. However, the only main topic in this book is how and why right-brained people will rule the world in the future. You can only go so far whilst talking about this one topic (even with all the little details). The inner circle could not resist switching the topic from "Design" to "Motivation" as it is explained in Dan Pink's book, Drive. The outer circle stayed on topic for the most part. The online conversation rarely strayed off the discussion topic and when it did, it was on the same page as the inner circle.Some hot issues that we being discussed in both circles were school policies and the way schools work. In this period, it is widely accepted that students would try less if there were no grades. Something that really caught my attention was the realization of the fact that when your grades are failing, teachers and parents take you out of sports and other activities so you can focus on your school work. This greatly defeats the point that Pink is trying to get across to us. These sports and activities focus on the right side of the brain (which will control the world someday). By taking them away, students only focus on the left side. This could also cause them to lose motivation to do their school work because their only escape is gone and they have less happiness. I do wish I had more time to ask people what it is that motivates them.
The fishbowl today was very insightful. I felt as if the inner circle really brought up good points about school schedules and new teaching methods. I agree that it did get off topic from design at times. However, these tangents all came from our comprehension of design. For the most part I was in the outer circle, and the blog had great questions which people answered with detailed responses. I think the ideas about classroom design and colors affecting mood was a great point and this could be used to create more effective learning environments. However, after awhile I got antsy and went into the inner circle. I think passion has a lot to do with design, motivation and success. If people love what they do and their environment (schedule, room, etc.) makes them feel comfortable then people will be more likely to succeed. The fishbowl really deepened my knowledge of how design and motivation aren't just related to the future world, but also related to my everyday learning. I do wonder though how such individual styles of learning could be applied to schools. How do we make sure everyone's learning ability is being met without re-standardizing the whole system? For the most part, I thought the fishbowl was effective. I just wish these last questions could have been brought up, but we only had so much time. I think the next time the inner circle should try and stay more focused on the central topic and relate to all the big ideas the come from the discussion.
During today’s fishbowl I felt like there were some great conversations going on in the blog, but I would have to agree with everyone else about the conversation going on in the inner circle. The inner circle had a great conversation and discussed many different important topics, however I think we got a little off topic. Instead of talking about the section of the book, I think the inner circle discussed more about life and motivation. I think that talking about how it applies to life is very important. It helps everyone to see how this book can really relate to us, and why things like design are important. Maybe next time we could try to get a better balance of discussing the book, but also keep talking about how it applies to life. Even though the conversation on the inner circle was not based completely on design, it was still very interesting. They talked a lot about school and motivation. After reading these books and watching TED talks, I have really started to think about what motivates me. I have decided it is my dreams, and my want to succeed that push me to try my best in everything I do. Today I got to learn about other people’s motivations, and what pushes them. Mrs. Smith told the interesting story about the guy who walked on the tight rope between the World Trade center buildings. I thought that story was very inspiring and went along well with what Pink writes about. That man was not paid and the only reward he saw in front of him was the satisfaction of knowing he did it. He worked hard and risked his life, but it was something he wanted to do. The outer circle blog was also very interesting. We talked about our motivators, but we also talked about the CHAD school a lot. It was really cool to have Christian Long on the blog. He was bringing up very interesting points and also was showing us web sites and other things to help us understand the topics. I found it really interesting when we talked about how design of an environment will affect the work going on in it. In the book Pink talks about how people heal faster if they have a fun, bright, modern environment to do so in. I started to think that I work better when I have a good, naturally lit, fun environment. Many people had the same feelings as I did. Even though not much of the book was discussed, I still think it was important to see how this book relates to our life, and why things like design and drive are so important.
Today's Fishbowl/Live Blog went fairly well in my opinion, but not as well as Fishbowls have in the past. However, our great guest, Christian Long, offered some good insight into eduction, being a teacher himself. He spoke/wrote about everything from a school based completely on design to the relationship between left and right brain.While things went well in the outer circle, I listened to enough of the inner circle's conversations to know that they got off topic a few times, and repeated themselves numerous times. Although they related most of their topics and tangents back to the book, there is still room for improvement. I didn't make it into the inner circle this time, but next time I am on the outer circle, I plan on migrating inward.The topics discussed today in both the inner and outer circles ranged from CHAD schools to classroom layout and policies. I thought it was interesting that many people decided that their grades are their greatest motivating factor, and not the learning that accompanies their grades. That got me thinking: what does that mean for the future. If our only motivation is the carrot and stick, what will happen when those are not present? Will we cease working altogether? Will we grow out of this stage, and develop some kind of internal motivation? I don't know the answers to these questions, but I hope to discuss them at the next Fishbowl.
Today's fishbowl had its good parts and its bad parts. On the blog, many good points were made. For example the discussion about whether design in school is distracting or beneficial was particularly insightful. Similar good points regarding design were considered in the inner circle, but there were not that many. In my opinion, the content in the reading for this fishbowl was too minimal. In the chapter Dan Pink only makes a few major points such as the fact that design is becoming increasingly important and that education should be more design based. The limited amount of subject matter made the inner circle and the outer circle be very repetitive and with little variation in topic. This can also be seen in that both circles began to talk about Drive showing that the class did not have enough about "Design". I think in the future if a fishbowl has limited subject matter each student needs to think beforehand of extremely deep thoughts and questions otherwise the fishbowl becomes repetitive and unthoughtful very quickly.
In today’s fishbowl many deep topics and questions were brought up in the inner circle, but many of them didn’t relate to the reading. Presenters and discussers continually referenced the book during the first half of discussion. Towards the end though, the inner circle started to discuss things outside of the book that didn’t seem to have much relevance. Although these things may be fun to discuss in class, but if they do not in some relate, then they are not helping anyone to learn. The bloggers did seem to have a good discussion going and the comments from Mr. Long seem to generate a lot of ideas. Overall, I think it was an okay fishbowl, but there are some definite things that need to be improved on for future fishbowls in order for everyone to take something away. I believe everyone in the inner circle came prepared to have a great discussion and many very good questions were asked, but many times the questions were lost somewhere in the discussion. This fishbowl did have its positives, though. People tried to refer to the book and there were definitely more references to the book than in the previous fishbowl, but there still needs to be more. This was an improvement from the previous fishbowl, but there is still much improvement needed.
Today's fishbowl was very interesting in the outer blogging circle and although I wasn't exactly listening to the inner circle until towards the end, by then it sounded like it was going rather well. The blogging focus started on design things, like color and the basic environment and then branched off to ideas like motivation, relating to the packets from Drive. From the design discussion, I realized how wonderful it would be to be able to learn in a colorful, interesting environment, as opposed to the bland white walls of Arapahoe. It also brought to my attention how convenient it would be if the schedule was not mandatory and students could choose which classes they felt were important to attend and which they could easily learn the content of outside of the classroom. Now, the motivation conversations: This was interesting as Mr.Long had a lot of comments about it and how it could affect our futures. He brought up good points relating to college, etc as time and society changes. I think that because I actually tried to get into the conversations a bit today, mostly because I think all this is actually pretty interesting, it was much more enriching for me and for how I am understanding this book.
Today’s fishbowl on discussion, as many of the people have already noted, could have gone better. The inner circles discussion on the topic of design was very good and had detail that backed it up. I also think that Smith offering her ideas into the discussion helped move us along. Sadly, due to the redundancy of the chapter and maybe the lack of prior information or new ideas halted the discussion and led us off the topic several times. This proved to be a little promising, offering ideas on the topic of design and letting us see what the world has come up with recently, or ideas for the future. The outer circle, with the addition of Christian Long helped stem the discussion past our window of view and into the world with him sharing videos and blogs. The discussion seemed to stay fairly on topic and rarely strayed for the idea. The inner circle had a problem with this, but like I said before, it might have been due to the lack of ideas or information about the topic.
The fishbowl about the design chapter of A Whole New Mind had its ups and downs being in the inner circle. One of the ups was that we thoroughly discussed each question and did not move on to another topic too quickly. However, this was also a downfall of the fishbowl; we tended to discuss topics so much that we began to repeat points that had been made. We also focused so much on the literal question that rarely did we go back to the part of the book that we were suppose to have our fishbowl centered around, as Rachel said in her post. Mrs. Smith had to pull us back several times and re-ask the question, “How does this relate to design?” Another aspect of fishbowl-ing that we did very well was not focus on the blogging and we were able to concentrate our attention on the face to face communication. We did mention some of the comments Christian Long made on the online blog and applied them to our conversation. However, to disadvantage to focusing on talking is that many of the people were not paying much attention to the online blog. I believe that the inner circle could have benefited from their discussions and applied it to our conversation. I was also disappointed that more people did not come and sit in the inner circle and have a face to face discussion with those in the center (there were a few people that did so kudos to you!). Other than over discussing and going slightly awry from the assigned topic, I think that this fishbowl was very successful at communicating ideas and gaining a better understanding of the book and what it means to us.
Todays Fishbowl didn't go as well in regards to the other ones we have had in the past. By not as well I mean that our discussions, both discussions, were not as fresh and didn't have as many meaningful connections as the ones in the past. Our guest blogger however did make good positive contributions to our discussion keeping the students thinking. I believe that the subject in general just didn't have enough to talk about to make the fishbowl as good as prior ones. As some people have already stated our discussion seemed to be slightly repetitive. The fishbowl also strayed away from the topic about halfway through. Overall this was an okay fishbowl but we as a class have had better.
The Fishbowl of today was a interesting one I would say. This is the first novel this year that has been nonfiction, so disscussing it must be approached differently. I think the reason that the inner circle had trouble stayin true to the book was because Pink is trying to have us apply these concepts to our lives, and we often pair that with other topics that fall farther away from the original idea, because so much of the disscussion relies on our interpretation. I think it is something we will just have to practice more and more of. Christian Long provided some very insightful points on the live blogging which defiently helped the outer circle move along. Todays Fishbowl might not have gone perfectly to plan, but it is a good starting point to improve apon.
Today's fishbowl was good in my opinion but could have been better as everyone is saying. The inner circle had some really good and detailed discussions but at times got a little off topic and I couldn't understand how that connected with design. The blog in the outer circle however I thought had a very good discussion, especially since we had Mr. Long blogging with us. I thought it was very cool that he inserted videos and websites that we could look at that supported his thoughts. I think that to improve for the next fishbowl the inner circle could come prepared with questions that relate more to the reading than the questions today did. I thought that the story that Mrs. Smith told about the man who walked across a rope between the World Trade Towers was perfect for this fishbowl. It was a good story of motivation and drive. THe man did this because he wanted to do it. Not because he was forced to. One other thing that we could do that would help the fishbowl be better would be bringing other questions that are different from what was expected. Overall, I thought this was a good fishbowl but it could have been better.
I did not think today's fishbowl was one of the better. I only heard bits and pieces from the inner circle, but it seemed as though they stayed on one topic for an extremely long time, and then did the same with another. They kept talking about a variety of topics, like how some knowledge at school is irrelevant, such as math class, when we just do problems out of a textbook, when no one really cares or truly understands. Some of it was valid, and understandable, but I had a hard time figuring out how that subject came up, because it did not really entirely relate to design. I thought that the comment Ms. Smith made at the end was very interesting. It was fascinating to hear about the man who walked on a wire between the twin towers, and I think the prospect of a different type of class and education system is very intriguing. I wish we could have had time to talk about that, because I think it would have gone farther than the topics that were discussed did. I did not see a whole lot of people go into the inner circle from the outer. That could definitely be improved. I did think the outer circle seemed to thrive a little bit more, but still had trouble getting momentum. At least in the outer circle, many more conversations are able to happen at once. I thought most of the topics discussed on there were worthwhile, but there was still some of the obvious (not bad). I feel like as a whole, there was not as much deep thinking as there has been in times passed. Overall as a class, this was a slightly less-than-desirable fishbowl, and we need it to be better than that if the whole world is watching.
In my opinion, the fishbowl today was okay. After reviewing the live blog, I agree that the questions asked and responses were deep and well thought-out, but we mostly repeated ourselves continuously in the fishbowl and merely restated what we said last week. We did touch base on the content of Design, but this chapter had limited items to discuss in it. Dan Pink really just went more into depth in Design about what he said in part 1. The inner circle did stray off topic, but this was not necessarily bad. It is easy to stray off topic because we are relating this conversation to our own lives. We still talked about pertinent issues for today. If we could do something better it would be to connect all of our ideas more. If the inner circle runs out of things to talk about in A Whole New Mind, then we need to move on to something else we have been studying and show how it relates back to the book. Mrs. Smith is not just giving us excerpts from Drive and having us watch TED talks for no reason; she is trying to make us think beyond the book. I would have liked to bring up the connections between motivation and design more, and I think that it would have been beneficial to the entire class to summarize the information in the chapter, and state the meaning and significance of design. I find it helpful when other people join in the fishbowl, like Christian Long and even Mrs. Smith because they have more insight, and can give us new ideas and perceptions about the discussions. I found the conversation in the inner circle about the complexity of design (the new cars, phones, why people want nice looking things etc.) very interesting, and I thought that that was a high point in the discussion. When there is not a lot of discussion topics in the reading sections, connections are key to help move the fishbowl along. It is vital that everyone come to the fishbowl prepared with questions and other relating topics. Yes, this fishbowl was not one of our best, but we can use this as a stepping stone and learning tool to make the next fishbowls even better!
Today’s fishbowl wasn’t bad, but we didn’t live up to our potential. I think the last fishbowl was better because we used examples from the text and made connections but we didn’t do that today. The outer circle did well I thought, Mr. Long kept giving people praise of the good points they were making. I really enjoy having people blog with us because they can share connections or points that help us master the knowledge of the topic. One thing we need to work on is the outer-circle moving into the inner circle. It is always the same people that always want to be in there, but we need everyone to contribute at one time or another. The inner circle really only talked about design for maybe the first ten minutes and then talked about something else. I think the fishbowl today was off topic because A Whole New Mind is non-fiction so we think that it is okay to zoom off course. This is also the first time we recorded the fishbowl so people might have been a bit nervous about being on the internet. One thing I have noticed is the outer circle bases its discussions off the inner circles. If the inner circle gets off topic then the outer circle will eventually fall off course too. I think fishbowls define how creative our class and individually we are, so we have to prove how intelligent we are through these fishbowls especially if Ms. Smith is posting these online.
Today during class we held our fishbowl discussion over the Design section in A Whole New Mind. I think the discussion overall went decently well. The main issue I noticed in during the fishbowl was how much we strayed from the reading. While we did discuss right-brained vs left-brained issues, we often had to regroup and refocus to tie back to Design. I was a discusser in today's fishbowl and I think that I was very well prepared. I have been thoroughly annotating the text so when the conversation started to lack I looked through my notes to find a question I had written that I thought would supply the inner circle with some good content matter. I have noticed with the non-fiction book that we seem to stray a little more from the assigned section to more abstract topics that relate to the overall book more. I am enjoying this book, but I think it has shown me that I am more of a fiction person. This book is challenging for me to read, as well as challenging for me to participate in fishbowl's with. However, I did think the class had a lot of good points. One thing we touched on a lot was the school scheduling and how it is forced upon us, and if things start to go downhill, the first thing to go is our extra-curricular activities that we have chosen instead of being chosen for us. I like how we then tied this to design and tried to figure out ways that design could help improve this attitude and make it a more likable, right-brained learning atmosphere. We talked a lot about what we can tie design to to make it more beneficial and improve it. Things like hospitals, and learning environments, and offices, as well as why things like design make a difference. To sum up, I think the class and I individually did very well, but I do still see room for improvement; but knowing Smith's Period 2 class, I know we can do it!
The fishbowl had a very good discussion on the live blog, and it seemed like the inner circle had a great discussion as well. In the blog, we talked about the lack of design in schools and in the general public, but how that might be changing in the near future. We also talked about how creative classes, such as art, music, theater, and dance, are not a major part of academic curriculum, and how those should become more of a focus in schools. Design was also connected to the great point of what is more important in school; good grades or learning. When students have more design in school and therefore have actual learning, then they are better equipped for their future ahead of them. Christian Long helped give us some other ideas of how to prepare ourselves and our classmates for this new future of creative careers, and how we can change the world.
I felt like the fishbowl had two sides to it. One side really referenced the book bringing the topic of design into the forefront of the discussion, The other side made outside references and built on what the first side of the discussion said, and really made it relevant to our lives. Both sides complimented each other well and both sides existed in both the inner and outer circle, but there was very few changing between the inner and outer circle. Everybody stayed in their comfort zone and it was a very two sided discussion between the inner and outer circle. I felt that the two discussions could have blended together better if people had been willing to get up and move. Other than that the fishbowl was smooth sailing and a great talk about design.
The fishbowl in class today about Daniel Pink's A Whole New Mind, more specifically the chapter on design, was somewhat enlightening. It didn't really seem as though the inner circle was getting anywhere in regards to the book. While the face to face conversation of the middle circle was in depth and had a lot of participation, it didn't feel as though the topic of design was the focus for the whole entire time. I thought the inner circle train derailed a couple of times, and as a result was not as good as it could have potentially been, especially as much as there was to talk about in this chapter. While the inner circle was sub par, I felt as though the outer circle had plenty of in depth and relevant conversation. One of the main reasons for this may have been that Mr. Long was there to help keep the online bloggers on track and really contribute to the learning. It seemed as though a lot of the conversation among the bloggers stemmed off of his original ideas and that he was giving us all something to think about. It was good to get a new personality in on the action so that we are not continually blogging with the same old group of people. The outer circle also came up with a lot of extensions to how schooling and the world as a whole could benefit from the content of the book, and also what needs to be changed.
In our class's fishbowl on Design, our class mostly focused on Daniel Pink's other novel Drive. Although it was off topic, I actually enjoyed the fishbowl. I was on the outer circle today and one part I really appreciated about this fishbowl was the poll questions. They steered the conversation into specific directions and helped the flow of the talking. People were answering each others questions quickly and were not staying on a certain topic throughout the conversation. One bad thing about this fishbowl was the lack of going into the inner circle. I stayed on the outside circle during the entire fishbowl and wish I had time to go inside the circle. It is difficult because people try to keep up with the outside circle while also trying to stay connected with the inner circle to find a time to go in. While we were still on the topic of Design, we talked about how that influence has affected our lives. Human beings are naturally attracted to the pretty and not necessarily the functional. The blogs people have been keeping on TED talks have reflected in the fishbowls and have a very positive impact on discussion. More examples are being used and less run on conversations are being held because people have different topics to talk about. In the outer circle a positive in the conversation was outside people watching in through the live-feed, while on the inside circle, people could watch the class talk about Dan Pink's various works. In all, it was a very productive and enjoyable fishbowl and possibly one of the best yet.